Comments for Top Hybrid Cars

Comment on What is the point of hydrogen cars when the hydrogen is produced by electric? by nathan

nathan — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:47:29 +0000

you really dont need to go as far as to use electric. it is now possible to make a car that runs on water seriously here go to this link its a guide on how to change your car from gas to a water fueled car, step by step so that even the all-purpose public can achieve this. it will cost its says from 60 to 150 dollars.

http://tinyurl.com/5o2gyz

Comment on What is the point of hydrogen cars when the hydrogen is produced by electric? by Dana1981, Master of Science

Dana1981, Master of Science — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:47:41 +0000

You’re right, there isn’t much point to hydrogen cars for that reason. People who answered that you can get hydrogen by using nuclear or renewable energy are missing the point – you can recharge an electric car battery with that same energy, and the process is more efficient.

Basically the benefit of electric cars is that they’re much more efficient than hydrogen cars. The benefit of hydrogen cars is that you can refill them quickly and they have a longer range. Though, you can also refuel an electric car quickly by either swapping out the battery (as you note), or by using a high voltage rapid recharge rank (5-10 minute recharge). We’d have to install these stations, but that would cost far less than building an enormous hydrogen transportation and storage space infrastructure from scratch.

As for the range issue, we just have to improve battery equipment to take up that, and we’re well on our way. The Tesla Roadster can go 220 miles per charge (even if it’s very expensive), and EEStor is working on ultracapacitor batteries that will be able to go 250 miles per charge if it works.

The way I see it, hydrogen only has one decent chance of life competetive with electrics, and that’s if the process of getting hydrogen by combining aluminum alloys with water works on a large scale and is less expensive. See the link below for further details.

Comment on What is the point of hydrogen cars when the hydrogen is produced by electric? by Nimic

Nimic — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 14:56:37 +0000

Hydrogen cars can be refueled in 1-2 minutes, wherein Electric cars have to be re-charged over night. Hydrogen cars have a range akin to a normal gasoline burning engine – you could drive up to 400 miles on a tank of hydrogen. Production electric cars have very small ranges – usually less then 100 miles. Electric car batteries also be converted into less effective over time and an electric car might be able to get 100 miles per charge the first year, but only 80 the second year. Within 4 years the batteries die altogether and must be replaced – very expensive, and high impact to the environment.

Even if hydrogen is produced by traditional earnings, it’s much cheaper to use electrolysis to yield hydrogen then it is to yield electricity from other methods. Also, electricity is not automatically a dirty source, it can be the cleanest source below the right conditions – which we are slowly moving to in this country – wind, solar, waste methane power, etc.

Hydrogen is PROVEN. There is an full highway, several hundred miles long with hydrogen gas stations in Norway. They are going to be expanding it to Sweden and all of Scandinavia shortly.

Comment on What is the point of hydrogen cars when the hydrogen is produced by electric? by Robert R

Robert R — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 14:17:45 +0000

Honda currently has a plant that produces hydrogen via solar energy.

Comment on What is the point of hydrogen cars when the hydrogen is produced by electric? by She It I do

She It I do — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 13:32:29 +0000

Electric motors are nice only draw back is
.. . ..
When the battery is dead it is dead for a couple of hours when you find a recharging rank
.. . ..
The Hydrogen fuel source has the commercial tank and the HHO generator that is now available as a supplementary fuel source to accompany the gasoline engine to
.. .. .
So the huge question is when will Honda or any of the car manufacturers get a HHO generating car that will refuel its self with a gallon of water carried on board
.. .. ..
Talk about changing the fuel wants of the automobile to a “0″ cost in fuel cost Man People will want to live in their cars it would be cheaper to most
.. . ..
Just place out a funnel with a coffee cup below it on a rainy day to catch the weeks need of fuel
.. .. ..
Now that will be the day that will change the WHOLE world
.. . …
So why in the world are not the companies doing something about it
MONEY in their pockets will be kind of on the small side PROFIT is the evil word in todays life of mankind
.. .. ..

Comment on What is the point of hydrogen cars when the hydrogen is produced by electric? by Raven Claw

Raven Claw — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 13:07:25 +0000

That’s why we need Nuclear Reactors in this country.
Nothing would be better to run our cars off of than hydrogen.

Why would anyone want to get their hydrogen from oil based manufactured goods, it’s the stupidest thing ever.
OK I don’t really believe that humans are the cause of global warming.
But if you get hydrogen from gasoline you will make CO2, not O2 like you would if you use water, so why the hell do that!
Why can’t people place 2 and 2 together!!
It’s not imposable to make another consumer manufactured goods; that is the bottom line isn’t it?
Isn’t that what they are saying when they say, ” well we have a distribution net work already in place..”Gas stations”
I reckon (I know) that this is the incorrect mentality, we need to place up BRAND new “HYDROGEN STATION” screw the gas stations, let them compete on the open market like everyone else.
Don’t even get me started on batteries, that is a dumb thought too.
The real rival to equipment is the special interest groups.

Comment on What is the point of hydrogen cars when the hydrogen is produced by electric? by Ferris

Ferris — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 13:03:42 +0000

You’re oversimplifying the process. Sure it uses electricity to complete the result, but electricity CURRENTLY (or in most places), comes from polluting sources. So a pure electric vehicle, which uses much more electricity than a hydrogen vehicle would, is worse in terms of pollution.

Also, there are plenty of other sources of hydrogen. It’s the most abundant resource in the full universe, by a long shot.

Comment on What is the point of hydrogen cars when the hydrogen is produced by electric? by dancerplight

dancerplight — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:37:35 +0000

Hydro can be produced by Solar or Nuclear.. But, sure in large part it will be produced at present time by fossill fuels in USA. Not in France, and other parts of the world, though

Comment on What are the different types of batteries used in Electric Cars? by Breath on the Wind

Breath on the Wind — Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:43:27 +0000

There are quite a few chemistry’s life tested for use in electric vehicles. Additionally ultra capacitors and flywheels are also below enhancement for energy storage space. There are also battery less electric vehicles that will get their electricity from the roadway.

Chemistry’s that have been used include:
Lead Acid battery
newer Lead carbon batteries
graphite foam-based battery
Edison’s alkaline battery for electric vehicles also known as the Nickel/Iron battery
Nickle metal hydride batteries have been very successful but Chevron owns the rights and refuses to allow them in purely electric vehicles (but they have been used in all the hybrids.)

And then there is the current family tree of Lithium based batteries:
LiFEPO batteries
lithium polymer battery
Lithium-Sulfur (Li-S) Battery
Lithium-Air Battery
Solid Disorder Lithium Battery

And even more well yet to be are some of the potential breakthrough technologies that received ARPA grants including:

Zinc Flow Air Battery:
Magnesium-Ion Battery
(See also the : Metal-Air Ionic Liquid battery)

We might not want atomic powered cars, but what about atomic batteries you would by no means have to charge? http://electric-vehicles-cars-bikes.blogspot.com/2009/10/atomic-powered-ev-batteries.html

Current high performance batteries cost up to $1000 per kw. Mass marketing may reduce this to $300 per kw. Ideally the price should be around $20 per kw and the batteries should last about 15 years.

Thirty Three point four KWH of electricity is approximately equal to a gallon of gasoline. On this an average electric car will go about 113 miles. An very efficient electric car may nearly double this range. For increased range the trick will be to place enough energy storage space into the vehicle or use electrified roadways: http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/whats-next-in-lithium-batteries/ Another way to reduce the cost is to increase the energy density so that you can place more batteries into a vehicle and either save space or save weight depending upon which measure you are using.

Comment on What are the different types of batteries used in Electric Cars? by Dave S.

Dave S. — Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:18:04 +0000

The 4 most ordinary are
1) Nickel family tree Ni-cad and NIMH
2) Lead Acid
3) Lithium Ion
4) Sodium Nickel Chloride

These are all deep cycle importance they are designed to be discharged deeper than a normal car battery.
Lead acid are found in gulf carts for example.

Lithium Ion will probably get the most use because they hold a pretty long charge.